[Defconapi] Loading debug symbols without user intervention

[Luke Meyers]

Hmm, now that I take a closer look, I think maybe it's not loading my
bot at all unless I select it in the UI.  My bot's behavior was just
too simple/nonexistent for me to realize at first.  It does set the
name and stuff.

On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 11:46 PM, Luke Meyers <n.luke.meyers at gmail.com> wrote:
> Tried it tonight with the new version, still no dice.  Same behavior
> as before.  Here are the command-line parameters I'm using:
>
> host nowan ai="D:\Program Files\Defcon\AI\regolith\regolith.dll" debug
> limitedinformation playername="[Bot]Regolith" servername="Regolith Bot
> Test" numplayers="1"
>
> Running under VS 2008.
>
> I've noticed that even though the bot gets used (with no debug symbols
> loaded) if I don't click anything, its name is not shown as the
> selection in the dropdown box.  Is that what you see on your system,
> except that in your case debug symbols do load even when the bot's
> name is not shown in the UI?
>
> Luke
>
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Robin Baumgarten
> <robin.baumgarten at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Luke,
>>
>> I'm not quite sure how that problem appears, it does work normally for me.
>> I've now uploaded the newest beta to the website (see my other post on this
>> list), please have a look if that fixes your problem. If not, please post
>> again and I'll have a closer look as well.
>>
>> Robin
>>
>> 2009/3/26 Chong-U Lim <cl2006 at doc.ic.ac.uk>
>>>
>>> Hi Luke!
>>>
>>> Hmm,t t's strange, however, because I've been able to get the Debug
>>> symbols to load up in Visual Studio.
>>> So are you saying that in order for the Debug symbols to load you have
>>> to reselect the bot from the Drop down menu?
>>> It could actually be due to a fault with the executable of the bot,
>>> which Robin and myself have come across, in which the DLL is actually
>>> loaded twice when launched from the command line. The executable has
>>> been fixed internally, but I think Robin has yet to make any updates
>>> officially.
>>>
>>> -Chong-U
>>>
>>> Luke Meyers wrote:
>>> > Hi Chong-U,
>>> >
>>> > Thanks for your reply.  I have been using the command-line option to
>>> > specify my AI DLL, and it works as far as loading up the bot.  It's
>>> > just the debug symbols that fail.  I guess it's not such a huge deal
>>> > since in any truly automated runs I wouldn't care about hitting
>>> > breakpoints and such, but it's still odd (and a little bit of a hassle
>>> > to race against that 5-second timer).  I'll probably learn to live
>>> > with it though, unless someone else has an idea.
>>> >
>>> > Good luck on your project!
>>> >
>>> > Cheers,
>>> > Luke
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 5:52 AM, Chong-U Lim <cl2006 at doc.ic.ac.uk>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Hey Luke,
>>> >>
>>> >> I'm writing a bot for my final year BEng individual project, hehe, and
>>> >> I
>>> >> happen to be focusing quite a bit on genetic algorithms ;) I don't have
>>> >> any formal write up and my wiki is quite out of date ( as it's
>>> >> examinations period now ), but I'm always happy to discuss anything
>>> >> regarding the bot.
>>> >>
>>> >> Pertaining to your question, there should be a command-line argument
>>> >> that goes something like AI="<path to dll here>" which should automate
>>> >> the selection of the AI bot automatically, rather than relying on you
>>> >> to
>>> >> select it from the drop down box. I, personally, have used that quite a
>>> >> fair bit, so I'm pretty sure it works... though it's important to get
>>> >> the relative directory path correct.
>>> >>
>>> >> Do follow up if anything doesn't work.
>>> >>
>>> >> All the best!
>>> >>
>>> >> -Chong-U
>>> >>
>>> >> Luke Meyers wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> Okay, writing again a little sooner than I thought :)
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I've got a skeleton for my own bot now, based on simplebot.  I played
>>> >>> around with the command line args and have been able to launch the
>>> >>> game with debugger attached and set breakpoints and such.  However,
>>> >>> there's one snag -- Visual Studio doesn't load the symbols unless I
>>> >>> physically click and select my bot from the dropdown on the battle
>>> >>> lobby.  This kind of puts a chink in my plans for fully touchless
>>> >>> world domination.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I can understand why the symbols wouldn't be loaded right at launch,
>>> >>> since it's choosing an AI DLL to load at runtime, but once it's
>>> >>> actually got the game up and running it's obviously got the bot loaded
>>> >>> because I can see the bot's behavior.  The command line option to
>>> >>> choose the AI performs the same function and should make twiddling
>>> >>> this UI widget unnecessary, but it fails to load the debug symbols.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Anyone else have this problem?  Any solutions?
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