[Defconapi] Loading debug symbols without user intervention

[Chong-U Lim]

Hey Luke,

For the AI path, could you try using the relative path and see if it works?

e.g. "\AI\regolith\regolith.dll"


-Chong-U

Luke Meyers wrote:
> Tried it tonight with the new version, still no dice.  Same behavior
> as before.  Here are the command-line parameters I'm using:
>
> host nowan ai="D:\Program Files\Defcon\AI\regolith\regolith.dll" debug
> limitedinformation playername="[Bot]Regolith" servername="Regolith Bot
> Test" numplayers="1"
>
> Running under VS 2008.
>
> I've noticed that even though the bot gets used (with no debug symbols
> loaded) if I don't click anything, its name is not shown as the
> selection in the dropdown box.  Is that what you see on your system,
> except that in your case debug symbols do load even when the bot's
> name is not shown in the UI?
>
> Luke
>
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Robin Baumgarten
> <robin.baumgarten at gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>> Hi Luke,
>>
>> I'm not quite sure how that problem appears, it does work normally for me.
>> I've now uploaded the newest beta to the website (see my other post on this
>> list), please have a look if that fixes your problem. If not, please post
>> again and I'll have a closer look as well.
>>
>> Robin
>>
>> 2009/3/26 Chong-U Lim <cl2006 at doc.ic.ac.uk>
>>     
>>> Hi Luke!
>>>
>>> Hmm,t t's strange, however, because I've been able to get the Debug
>>> symbols to load up in Visual Studio.
>>> So are you saying that in order for the Debug symbols to load you have
>>> to reselect the bot from the Drop down menu?
>>> It could actually be due to a fault with the executable of the bot,
>>> which Robin and myself have come across, in which the DLL is actually
>>> loaded twice when launched from the command line. The executable has
>>> been fixed internally, but I think Robin has yet to make any updates
>>> officially.
>>>
>>> -Chong-U
>>>
>>> Luke Meyers wrote:
>>>       
>>>> Hi Chong-U,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your reply.  I have been using the command-line option to
>>>> specify my AI DLL, and it works as far as loading up the bot.  It's
>>>> just the debug symbols that fail.  I guess it's not such a huge deal
>>>> since in any truly automated runs I wouldn't care about hitting
>>>> breakpoints and such, but it's still odd (and a little bit of a hassle
>>>> to race against that 5-second timer).  I'll probably learn to live
>>>> with it though, unless someone else has an idea.
>>>>
>>>> Good luck on your project!
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Luke
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 5:52 AM, Chong-U Lim <cl2006 at doc.ic.ac.uk>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> Hey Luke,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm writing a bot for my final year BEng individual project, hehe, and
>>>>> I
>>>>> happen to be focusing quite a bit on genetic algorithms ;) I don't have
>>>>> any formal write up and my wiki is quite out of date ( as it's
>>>>> examinations period now ), but I'm always happy to discuss anything
>>>>> regarding the bot.
>>>>>
>>>>> Pertaining to your question, there should be a command-line argument
>>>>> that goes something like AI="<path to dll here>" which should automate
>>>>> the selection of the AI bot automatically, rather than relying on you
>>>>> to
>>>>> select it from the drop down box. I, personally, have used that quite a
>>>>> fair bit, so I'm pretty sure it works... though it's important to get
>>>>> the relative directory path correct.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do follow up if anything doesn't work.
>>>>>
>>>>> All the best!
>>>>>
>>>>> -Chong-U
>>>>>
>>>>> Luke Meyers wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Okay, writing again a little sooner than I thought :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've got a skeleton for my own bot now, based on simplebot.  I played
>>>>>> around with the command line args and have been able to launch the
>>>>>> game with debugger attached and set breakpoints and such.  However,
>>>>>> there's one snag -- Visual Studio doesn't load the symbols unless I
>>>>>> physically click and select my bot from the dropdown on the battle
>>>>>> lobby.  This kind of puts a chink in my plans for fully touchless
>>>>>> world domination.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can understand why the symbols wouldn't be loaded right at launch,
>>>>>> since it's choosing an AI DLL to load at runtime, but once it's
>>>>>> actually got the game up and running it's obviously got the bot loaded
>>>>>> because I can see the bot's behavior.  The command line option to
>>>>>> choose the AI performs the same function and should make twiddling
>>>>>> this UI widget unnecessary, but it fails to load the debug symbols.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone else have this problem?  Any solutions?
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