[Defconapi] Loading debug symbols without user intervention

[Luke Meyers]

Yeah, I've tried that too -- with and without the leading backslash.
Also tried forward slashes.  No love.

On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 6:27 AM, Chong-U Lim <cl2006 at doc.ic.ac.uk> wrote:
> Hey Luke,
>
> For the AI path, could you try using the relative path and see if it works?
>
> e.g. "\AI\regolith\regolith.dll"
>
>
> -Chong-U
>
> Luke Meyers wrote:
>>
>> Tried it tonight with the new version, still no dice.  Same behavior
>> as before.  Here are the command-line parameters I'm using:
>>
>> host nowan ai="D:\Program Files\Defcon\AI\regolith\regolith.dll" debug
>> limitedinformation playername="[Bot]Regolith" servername="Regolith Bot
>> Test" numplayers="1"
>>
>> Running under VS 2008.
>>
>> I've noticed that even though the bot gets used (with no debug symbols
>> loaded) if I don't click anything, its name is not shown as the
>> selection in the dropdown box.  Is that what you see on your system,
>> except that in your case debug symbols do load even when the bot's
>> name is not shown in the UI?
>>
>> Luke
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Robin Baumgarten
>> <robin.baumgarten at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Luke,
>>>
>>> I'm not quite sure how that problem appears, it does work normally for
>>> me.
>>> I've now uploaded the newest beta to the website (see my other post on
>>> this
>>> list), please have a look if that fixes your problem. If not, please post
>>> again and I'll have a closer look as well.
>>>
>>> Robin
>>>
>>> 2009/3/26 Chong-U Lim <cl2006 at doc.ic.ac.uk>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Luke!
>>>>
>>>> Hmm,t t's strange, however, because I've been able to get the Debug
>>>> symbols to load up in Visual Studio.
>>>> So are you saying that in order for the Debug symbols to load you have
>>>> to reselect the bot from the Drop down menu?
>>>> It could actually be due to a fault with the executable of the bot,
>>>> which Robin and myself have come across, in which the DLL is actually
>>>> loaded twice when launched from the command line. The executable has
>>>> been fixed internally, but I think Robin has yet to make any updates
>>>> officially.
>>>>
>>>> -Chong-U
>>>>
>>>> Luke Meyers wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Chong-U,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your reply.  I have been using the command-line option to
>>>>> specify my AI DLL, and it works as far as loading up the bot.  It's
>>>>> just the debug symbols that fail.  I guess it's not such a huge deal
>>>>> since in any truly automated runs I wouldn't care about hitting
>>>>> breakpoints and such, but it's still odd (and a little bit of a hassle
>>>>> to race against that 5-second timer).  I'll probably learn to live
>>>>> with it though, unless someone else has an idea.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good luck on your project!
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Luke
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 5:52 AM, Chong-U Lim <cl2006 at doc.ic.ac.uk>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey Luke,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm writing a bot for my final year BEng individual project, hehe, and
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> happen to be focusing quite a bit on genetic algorithms ;) I don't
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> any formal write up and my wiki is quite out of date ( as it's
>>>>>> examinations period now ), but I'm always happy to discuss anything
>>>>>> regarding the bot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pertaining to your question, there should be a command-line argument
>>>>>> that goes something like AI="<path to dll here>" which should automate
>>>>>> the selection of the AI bot automatically, rather than relying on you
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> select it from the drop down box. I, personally, have used that quite
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> fair bit, so I'm pretty sure it works... though it's important to get
>>>>>> the relative directory path correct.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do follow up if anything doesn't work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All the best!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Chong-U
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Luke Meyers wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Okay, writing again a little sooner than I thought :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've got a skeleton for my own bot now, based on simplebot.  I played
>>>>>>> around with the command line args and have been able to launch the
>>>>>>> game with debugger attached and set breakpoints and such.  However,
>>>>>>> there's one snag -- Visual Studio doesn't load the symbols unless I
>>>>>>> physically click and select my bot from the dropdown on the battle
>>>>>>> lobby.  This kind of puts a chink in my plans for fully touchless
>>>>>>> world domination.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can understand why the symbols wouldn't be loaded right at launch,
>>>>>>> since it's choosing an AI DLL to load at runtime, but once it's
>>>>>>> actually got the game up and running it's obviously got the bot
>>>>>>> loaded
>>>>>>> because I can see the bot's behavior.  The command line option to
>>>>>>> choose the AI performs the same function and should make twiddling
>>>>>>> this UI widget unnecessary, but it fails to load the debug symbols.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyone else have this problem?  Any solutions?
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