[Defconapi] Loading debug symbols without user intervention

[Luke Meyers]

I got it working!  My computer's acting up so I'll look into it later
to figure out what I was doing wrong.  I think it was something stupid
like case-sensitivity or something.

On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Chong-U Lim <cl2006 at doc.ic.ac.uk> wrote:
> Also, to answer your question, you should see your bot's name being loaded
> in the menu drop down box, in the event it managed to locate it
> successfully.
>
> -Chong-U
>
> Chong-U Lim wrote:
>>
>> Hmm,
>>
>> In Visual Studio, make sure you are in release mode too.
>> I'm pasting the arguments which I'm feeding into Command Arguments in
>> VS2008 under Configuration Properties->Debugging:
>>
>> playername=chonges host debug ai="AI/rpo/ICBot4.dll" territory=5 repeat=1
>>  internalaiterritory=1 maxgametime=2700
>>
>> -Chong-U
>>
>> Luke Meyers wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Yeah, I've tried that too -- with and without the leading backslash.
>>> Also tried forward slashes.  No love.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 6:27 AM, Chong-U Lim <cl2006 at doc.ic.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hey Luke,
>>>>
>>>> For the AI path, could you try using the relative path and see if it
>>>> works?
>>>>
>>>> e.g. "\AI\regolith\regolith.dll"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Chong-U
>>>>
>>>> Luke Meyers wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Tried it tonight with the new version, still no dice.  Same behavior
>>>>> as before.  Here are the command-line parameters I'm using:
>>>>>
>>>>> host nowan ai="D:\Program Files\Defcon\AI\regolith\regolith.dll" debug
>>>>> limitedinformation playername="[Bot]Regolith" servername="Regolith Bot
>>>>> Test" numplayers="1"
>>>>>
>>>>> Running under VS 2008.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've noticed that even though the bot gets used (with no debug symbols
>>>>> loaded) if I don't click anything, its name is not shown as the
>>>>> selection in the dropdown box.  Is that what you see on your system,
>>>>> except that in your case debug symbols do load even when the bot's
>>>>> name is not shown in the UI?
>>>>>
>>>>> Luke
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Robin Baumgarten
>>>>> <robin.baumgarten at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Luke,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not quite sure how that problem appears, it does work normally for
>>>>>> me.
>>>>>> I've now uploaded the newest beta to the website (see my other post on
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> list), please have a look if that fixes your problem. If not, please
>>>>>> post
>>>>>> again and I'll have a closer look as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Robin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2009/3/26 Chong-U Lim <cl2006 at doc.ic.ac.uk>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Luke!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hmm,t t's strange, however, because I've been able to get the Debug
>>>>>>> symbols to load up in Visual Studio.
>>>>>>> So are you saying that in order for the Debug symbols to load you
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> to reselect the bot from the Drop down menu?
>>>>>>> It could actually be due to a fault with the executable of the bot,
>>>>>>> which Robin and myself have come across, in which the DLL is actually
>>>>>>> loaded twice when launched from the command line. The executable has
>>>>>>> been fixed internally, but I think Robin has yet to make any updates
>>>>>>> officially.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Chong-U
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Luke Meyers wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Chong-U,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for your reply.  I have been using the command-line option to
>>>>>>>> specify my AI DLL, and it works as far as loading up the bot.  It's
>>>>>>>> just the debug symbols that fail.  I guess it's not such a huge deal
>>>>>>>> since in any truly automated runs I wouldn't care about hitting
>>>>>>>> breakpoints and such, but it's still odd (and a little bit of a
>>>>>>>> hassle
>>>>>>>> to race against that 5-second timer).  I'll probably learn to live
>>>>>>>> with it though, unless someone else has an idea.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Good luck on your project!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Luke
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 5:52 AM, Chong-U Lim <cl2006 at doc.ic.ac.uk>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hey Luke,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm writing a bot for my final year BEng individual project, hehe,
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> happen to be focusing quite a bit on genetic algorithms ;) I don't
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> any formal write up and my wiki is quite out of date ( as it's
>>>>>>>>> examinations period now ), but I'm always happy to discuss anything
>>>>>>>>> regarding the bot.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Pertaining to your question, there should be a command-line
>>>>>>>>> argument
>>>>>>>>> that goes something like AI="<path to dll here>" which should
>>>>>>>>> automate
>>>>>>>>> the selection of the AI bot automatically, rather than relying on
>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> select it from the drop down box. I, personally, have used that
>>>>>>>>> quite
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> fair bit, so I'm pretty sure it works... though it's important to
>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>> the relative directory path correct.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Do follow up if anything doesn't work.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> All the best!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Chong-U
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Luke Meyers wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Okay, writing again a little sooner than I thought :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've got a skeleton for my own bot now, based on simplebot.  I
>>>>>>>>>> played
>>>>>>>>>> around with the command line args and have been able to launch the
>>>>>>>>>> game with debugger attached and set breakpoints and such.
>>>>>>>>>>  However,
>>>>>>>>>> there's one snag -- Visual Studio doesn't load the symbols unless
>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> physically click and select my bot from the dropdown on the battle
>>>>>>>>>> lobby.  This kind of puts a chink in my plans for fully touchless
>>>>>>>>>> world domination.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I can understand why the symbols wouldn't be loaded right at
>>>>>>>>>> launch,
>>>>>>>>>> since it's choosing an AI DLL to load at runtime, but once it's
>>>>>>>>>> actually got the game up and running it's obviously got the bot
>>>>>>>>>> loaded
>>>>>>>>>> because I can see the bot's behavior.  The command line option to
>>>>>>>>>> choose the AI performs the same function and should make twiddling
>>>>>>>>>> this UI widget unnecessary, but it fails to load the debug
>>>>>>>>>> symbols.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Anyone else have this problem?  Any solutions?
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